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Still a low, but raising number of hate comments here on DA against furries makes me really wonder - what the hell is wrong with people? Is your life that boring that you need to insult people you don't even know, just because they like a different hobby or lifestyle (that you also obviously don't need ANYthing about)? Did you ever hear about tolerance? Or appreciating artistic skills, even if you don't like the genre?

"Furry" is such an enormous and varied genre, you couldn't explain it in one phrase, except for the main thing we have in common - Furry Fans are people who have an extraordinary affinity for anthropomorphic animals (which can be art, writing, costuming, roleplaying, or anything else). I absolutely don't expect everybody to understand or even like furry, and that's totally fine. But the hell, people, stop generalizing or insulting a whole fandom just because of one weird picture you googled. It's totally fine not to like something, but honestly - why do you click on submissions like fursuit pictures then? Posting a photo of a well made costume is neither offensive, nor pervert, nor sexual, nor anything. I am not bothering you with it, I am not trying to convert anybody, I am not a "hardcore" furry. Believe it or not - I am a regular girl, with a boyfriend, a nice family, a job, just with a hobby/lifestyle that's less usual than soccer or collecting stamps.

So if you don't like furry but still want to comment - please be polite and tolerant. It's all fine to say it's not your kind of thing, but insulting me (or furries in general) will just make you end up on my block list. I will not let you drag me down on such a low and hateful niveau. And comments like that aren't constructive critique as well.

And same request to the furry side - please do not fight back on the same niveau. We're neither better, nor worse than anybody else. I can somehow understand many of you feel like "defending" the furry fandom, but please rather try to argue properly, give explanations, stay polite, or simply ignore trolls. Insulting people back or telling things like we would be better does not help giving furry a good reputation as well. I don't need to be "proud" of what I am - I simply want to enjoy it.

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1. Please read the commentary field when I post a submission! When I write there "BNCreation made the fursuit, not me" and people still answer "great suit you made"... well. ;) I promise I won't write novels in there, just some info that I consider interesting for the submission. ^^

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The-Lunar-Dragon Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2012
Yeah, people see one strange furry picture or drawing and go against the whole thing, this may be weird but its like having one rotten strawberry or something and then throwing away the whole batch, not fair!
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JioZebra Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
Aye, what is up with people?
One thing, people who like furries, are people who understand the imagination behind a very interesting species!
Second thing, do you remember when you are very young, and your parents say, "If it's nothing good to say, don't say it at all, honey!" Well, you would think that if people on this website were over the age of 13, they would be a bit more mature, don't you think?
I'm not saying EVERYONE has to like furries, but if you don't, or think they are strange, or weird, or ANYTHING, just keep it to yourself!
I wish people would understand that everyone is unique, and that people can like something that they don't.
And Tani, I totally agree with you! ^^
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herzeleid31 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2011  Student Writer
I've always been careful when voicing my love for anthro art due to all of the psychos out there who attack anyone who associates with the fandom. It's pretty sad, really, but I guess it just comes with the territory of any fandom. All of the yiffing isn't my style, but it doesn't mean I'll go to every single artist's page who creates that sort of work and condemn and bash them, but maybe I'm just... sane?
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RoguePyrat Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2010
:clap: well said!
i've seen a lot of journals recently about this, maybe, eventually these people will understand that not all furries are the same & into yiffing, etc. I only found out about that in an ep of CSI (yay CSI!!!) & that showed the different levels of furries.
:shrug: some people just like to cause arguments
:hug:
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WindWo1f Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
some people SERIOUSLY have issues! I'll totally support you, Tani!
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Kodiackk8 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2010
i didnt know what furry meant, but i looked it up and now i do, and i think, WHY ALL THE HATE??? because i realized that i am a hard core furry!
ignore the haters. keep drawing wonderfully!
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Ranshiinsitha Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Thanks for writting this, i really hate furry haters, and reading this really made me to react in some way, i already know it but i get so mad at furry haters that i can't help myself qhen they say something stupid about furry,
Furry is my lifestyle, is what im, is my place, is what completes me, so don't fucking insult it! That pisses me off. A person insulting a whole fandom, as you said, just for a stupid gooled image, or for a stupid furry who is not the best representant of the fndom in some way, or any other reason.
Gezz, please stop the hate!
See you Tani.
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Citras Featured By Owner Dec 25, 2010   Digital Artist
:clap: That was a very mature way to put it. Your art is gorgeous and I see only beautiful and lifelike pieces. Don't ever stop drawing what you draw unless it is your choice.
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MorisTheSafeCat Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2010   Traditional Artist
It's either trolls who do it on purpose, people who really have no happiness at the time, or religious extremists know-it-alls who THINK they know what things are, and will end their insulting posts with "I will pray for you" (even though that is probably a rare case and it's really trolls, trying to make religious people look bad). I think furries should be set to a neutral, but with all the furverts out there, (and even if you ask them if they think their art it nasty, they'll just shrug, because they've been so exposed to that they don't know right from wrong) no wonder people are dissing furries. I really wish they would not, but most people see being a furry as a fetish.
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LOST14 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2010
Yeah.
Every fandom has it's weirdies but it's wrong to generalize.
I like some furry art, especially yours. It's so cute. ^^
And I have to admit some of those fursuits look neat.

Anyone who gives you or anyone else trouble is just a troll and trolls are losers. :]
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Wolfboy1001 Featured By Owner Dec 23, 2010
Meh, it's the internet - I'm not surprised at all...when you are anonymous on the net people will say the wildest things.
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ItachiGirl1 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2010
I agree as well. I don't know why somebody would slam that outfit. It was VERY well made, and didn't you say the spot were "hand sewn"! That takes skill people, and "furry" means many things, like you have said. It irritates me that many people do not research more about art or know anything about it before-hand before saying something about it or criticizing it.

I love your art, and your suit is beautiful! Don't let those hate comments bring you down ^^ We on dA love you here Tani! Do what you want, and let the haters bring themselves down XD
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raptor-painter15 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I agree. Although I'm personally not a furry, I think the whole idea is very interesting and, if I had more time and money (and could come up with a decent fursona), I'd probably get more into it, myself! I've actually learned a lot about furries from here at dA, which helped to erase some of the misconceptions I had about it. i.e. That you don't necessarily have to fursuit to be a furry - you can just draw your characters or roleplay as them (I thought you absolutely had to dress up as your character), and also, that you can have multiple fursonas (because I have a hard time deciding between eagle, fox, or wolf - I can be all 3, depending on my mood!) But so many people think that it's all a sexual thing, which it isn't, and it's sad that some people are that narrow (and dirty) minded about it.
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Layfa Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2010  Student General Artist
Well, in some way haters can be understanded. Lots of furries are people that just playing in funny cubs and after getting a friendship can put a knife into your back. Most of them come to fuck somebody (forgive me for my english). I have "enjoying moments" with that people, as well.
And also lots of people don't understand what are they saying.
This pitty situation also appears with other otherkinds, not only furry vs humans... Maybe the problem is in our mind?
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DARGON1 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I am not sure where to begin with this,so I will just write what I hope will be understood as simple curios thought and nothing more.
I personally am not sure what the term "Furry" means. I have been called this before because my character is a Dragon,which I thought was silly as Dragons do not commonly have fur.:)
I fully agree with you on this.I have seen a lot of Hate in relation to the Furry comments.
I simply do not understand,art is art! I have seen some truly wonderful costumes on here and in YOUR gallery inpaticular! I see nothing wrong with this,in fact I see it as a great form of personal expression.:)
I have heard some people's definition of the term "Furry",but do not feel that they were being fully honest nor were they being bi-est in there description of said hobby. In fact I have been Very offended by some of there descriptions of what they clam is Furry.
What ever the case,one fact remains.....Art is Art,and if you can not appreciate art for what it is,then perhaps you should step back and re-examine your take on the subject altogether.
One more thing while we are on the subject.....Though I may not know what "Furry" is,*and I am so hoping someone here if not you will tell me...please?*
If it is nothing more than simple costume play,then why is there not so much Hate mail to all of the Cosplay people? They too are wearing costumes.:)
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VulpineFlame Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hello ^^
I read your comment here on Tanis Journal and felt like explaining you the term "furry", which is quite hard to explain. ^^;

So basically you are a furry if you feel a strong sympathy to animals.

Then there are different kinds of being furry:
For some its a religious thing like believing they have an animal soul.
Other, like most furries here on dA, just like the beauty of animals and love to draw them.
Also they are furries who love to cosplay as their fursona.
And there are also people who just like the "simple" way of life the animals have in comparission to our busy human life.
A lot of furries do also wear collars and are vegetarians or a member in animal right groups.

Evantually there are many ways of being a furry. And not the one and only furry. But in the end all feel very near to animals thats kinda what binds them all together.
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DARGON1 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Well,Hello! Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me.:)
So then what you are saying is,pretty much ANYONE who has a like or fondness for animals is then considered a "Furry". I find this both interesting and comforting.
All of what you have explained here relates to my self.:D I too feel that I have an animal soul,so to speak as I believe that Humans are animals,only of a different species.And yes,even in the term which you have posted here as well,as I do feel that at some point in my past life's I have been an animal of one sort or another.:)
I also love the true beauty of animals,and admire there seemingly simple way of existence.Though I do not wear a collar nor am I a Vegetarian,still I do love drawing animals,and love seeing the costumes that people make of them.Therefore,I suppose I too am a Furry,and thereby am Very proud of this fact!:D
I am very happy you have explained this to me,for the only explanation I had before was that Furry's were people who only wished to have sex with animals.
In this,I am at a loss....But to each there own I say.
Again thank you so very much for explaining this to me!!:hug: Now I truly do understand!:)
Also may I add,you have a most lovely gallery!:)
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Erikku-Kun Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I've noticed that too, I don't understand whats wrong about furry or anthro drawings. Though I haven't been doing it for that long, I just find it really fun.
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randomite93 Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010
Hmmm YES I've noticed it on youtube as well. People seem to HATE furries and I really wonder why. Most of them are such awesome people, and its really who you are inside that counts. I've never really got the whole furry thing... some people tell me its the people who have orgies and stuff, while others describe it as you do, but either way, people must learnt to accept others for who they are, since we ARE all human, after all :D
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Graeth-Raltharn Featured By Owner Dec 21, 2010
People failed that part of kindergarten: 'If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it."
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Still-Dreams Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
Ignore the haters.
If they can't learn and enjoy the fact that there
are people with such a variety of intreast
then it's there own fault and there
world is proabably very dull.
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NekozawaKeya Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
Daaaaaaaang. I didn't kno that alota people don't like furries.. I love 'em.
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Tharkz Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
How can anyone write hate posts against you?! Just looking at your avatar makes me laugh and almost all of the characters you draw smile's so cutely. :)
Damn I can't take my eyes of that avatar of yours, please make a fullsize for me to stare at all day. A Hypno-Schnolf!
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Squirrel-Pelusa Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Student Digital Artist
Oh friend, yes I hate that kind of people too, but don't worry they said that things to you cause they envy your very very very very beautifull draws XD...
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Talik13 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Student Photographer
I think this does a pretty good job at summing up the furry fandom at a basic level... and its coming from G4 none the less!

[link]
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Neko-Priestess Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
People can be really insecure sometimes.... which is why most people insult.

:hug:
Love your work.
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Neko-Priestess Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
People can be really insecure sometimes.... which is why most people insult.

:hug:
Love your work.
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Dark-Valkyrye Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
finally! Someone is standing up for this!
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marZettik Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
I would just like to say that I respect individual lifestyle choices whether or not I agree with them. I mean I wouldn't want someone putting me down for my choices , so I don't do it to others. There is a saying that says; "Do onto others as you would have do onto yourself". I mean if your anyone in my life I'll do my best to support you and I feel offend when they feel offend. So when someone makes a hate comment about these types of things it doesn't only hurt that person but the other people who support them. We're a very open satiety these days so its so sad to see people doing these things.
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BeckrrRAWR Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Well said! Bravo!
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BlueberryFlyingWolf Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
I totaly agree with you.
I was going to post a journal entry about this, but you beat me to it ^_^
Why do people critisise furries? Its just what they like. Its not a bad thing.
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Kodiackk8 Featured By Owner Dec 26, 2010
like ur sig!
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BlueberryFlyingWolf Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010
Thanks:)
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Kodiackk8 Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010
sure!
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BlueberryFlyingWolf Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2010
:)
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Nathanaeru Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
Yes, That's Right...There's many troll hate us, what we can do know is united to fight them. We Need Freedom for us Furries !

Almost all of them still thinking Furries is like you-know-what but it's not true, not at all Furries like that. We're nice furry and doesn't wrong become furries, because of they are jealous people ^^
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aka-tsuki-jin Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
be thankful you don't live in Mexico/USA border, here anything different is either a blasphemy, against rules of decency or just weird, and any of these means you get beaten to the ground.
and for someone who is Mexican, furry, gay and super nerd/otaku... tonight I dine in hell.
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SunnieTheDragon Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student Digital Artist
I mentioned that I was a furry to a couple people at school, and this one guy went off on me about yiff and how furries are gross perverts and I wanted to punch him in the face by the time he was done "educating" me. Ugh. I feel this journal. ;A;
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demonic36 Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
and that is the reason i say anthro instead of furry
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RottenEggCreations Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Professional General Artist
I've never been lucky enough to get outright attacks or insults against me... either that or I just don't care to even take any of them seriously and just say something in attempts to edge em on.
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theycallmedesiree Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
dude. well said.
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theycallmedesiree Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
dude. well said.
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RogueShepherd Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010   Writer
I think the german post before me put it best, "Live and let live." Though I hate to play devils advocate but people always find a way to systematically exclude people no matter how big or small the group. Its in our nature, even in the smallest of villages there will be some kind of elite club and thats to make the egotists feel better about themselves. Why people have nothing else better to do then to put it on the people who are different just falls into that pattern. I am a furry, I have a girlfriend (not a furry but respects my decision) why they have to pick .001% of the population and lump the rest of the group into it I have no idea.

Bottom line: What people decide to do in their free time is none of another's business, and as long as it does not hurt themselves or others its in their best interest to keep their fat snout out of it.
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Barnyardfan4 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
I can't get on the chat boards because of me being a furry. I've gotten cussed out more more than once. :(
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Jayfeather21 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
What're you gonna do? Haters gonna hate. D:
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OddsAndAtrocities Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
People hate because they know they'll get replies like this. They intentionally want you to respond to them because, yeah, they are bored. In response to those people, you just reply with 'lol'
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Bibina90 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
You're absolutely right. I love furry art like yours :3

ps. The costume is so amazing <3
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Forwardess Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's really quite sad when it comes to childish arguments over the internet. I posted a comment on a video some time ago on an animated movie trailer and some guy goes, "This is a movie for people who loves animals.... if ya know what I mean. What are they called? Oh yeah, FURRIES." So this girl, bless her little nai'ive heart, had every intention of defending the furry side of the argument but wound up "educating" the guy with false information; so I neutrally (because we who consider ourselves furries should know better than to put ourselves in a situation that begs "please flame me") corrected the both of them and wouldn't you know it the nai'ive 12 yr old chick winds up mistaking me for bashing furries and flames the shit out of my youtube page and continues to counter-bash the guy who was the one attacking furs in the first place causing him to do exactly what he planned, flame flame flame on the video, on her page etc. Really ridiculous. Semi-irrelevant story, but it all comes down to, is it really necessary for people to troll and insult people when they know nothing about the matter? Of course not, but it's also unnecessary for those supporting the matter to waste our time rage counter-trolling because it really doesn't make them "see the light", entertains them, while making us look really retarded. There's certainly a way to have calm debates - and if it gets stupid on the troller's part, we gotta learn to end the conversation. But indeed, I agree. If I ever find trolls on my page or comments, insta-block/delete.
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rawr-kyro Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
Lol, I'll fight back. With a much more malicious intent rather than insulting.
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Icebluerose77 Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
A total thumbs up to this submission... thank you for saving my day
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